Who’s to blame for Connecticut massacre? (108 posts)

Thread tags: Connecticut, guns, massacre
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  • Profile picture of paxchristi3 paxchristi3 said 6 months, 1 week ago:

    I totally concur with the L.A. psychologist who, during an interview with Fox News’ Neil Cavuto, attributed the apparent increase in violence to the breakdown in morality and spirituality in this country that he said had held us together until now. When you have the kind of filth gone wild like that on “Two and a Half Men,” which even one of its actors recently called for us to avoid, then we indeed have a problem.

    The citizens who have been responsible gun owners should no way, no how be punished for the kind of mental issues that we are seeing as the likely result of a trend as pointed out in the following comment that I found elsewhere: “God has been pushed from the government, the classroom, the media and any where else he may be deemed offensive or politically incorrect. Expect a lot more shootings, stabbings etc., now that he has obliged these calls for him to leave and Satan is running the show.”

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  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 6 months, 1 week ago:

    So God so loved the world that he turned his back on it and let the Devil have it. Shall we now burn all the churches and kill all the believers?

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  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 6 months, 1 week ago:

    God had nothing to do with this tragedy. The prevalence of violence in our culture and our ready access to guns resulted in a very sick individual (or two) committing this horrific crime. The people who wrote the 2nd Amendment did not think it would lead to the 20 mass shootings we seem to have annually. We have the right to bear arms (if we belong to a militia) not to kill our fellow citizens.

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  • Profile picture of John Bravo John Bravo said 6 months, 1 week ago:

    Forks make people fat.

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  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 6 months, 1 week ago:

    20 children and a teacher were stabbed yesterday in a school in China.

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  • Profile picture of think4yourself think4yourself said 6 months, 1 week ago:

    So, should we ban steak knives Groucho?

    The prevailance of violence in recent years, I believe is a combination of factors-one, any, or all are recipes for tragedy:

    1. Our indifference towards decency on TV and other mass media.
    2. Do nothing parents who care more about ‘being liked’ by their kids then being the authority figure they need.
    3. An increasing number of parents who treat their kids as a burden to a carefree lifestyle than making PARENTHOOD their lifestyle.
    4. The ‘me first’ mentality that has overtaken our way of life and translates into a complete disregard for the lives and welfare of others (this is not just a ‘liberal’ problem).
    5. Parents and educators that are clueless that mental illness is a REAL illness and not just some ‘character flaw’.

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  • Profile picture of ApolloDawn ApolloDawn said 6 months ago:

    I’m happy that I could brighten your day, Pax.

    You’ve waited a long time for an opportunity like this, far too long.

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  • Profile picture of catpaw catpaw said 6 months ago:

    We are a society of rights of the individual. So of course, we’re going to have too many people owning guns who shouldn’t. We also have too many people with driving licenses who shouldn’t. We have too many parents who are not fit for the role. Try to install tighter controls and there’ll will be a howl about government getting into individual liberties. Is there a such thing as too much freedom?

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  • Profile picture of think4yourself think4yourself said 6 months ago:

    Cat-BINGO! That’s why I implied that the ‘me first’ mentality is not just a liberal ordeal. Its just depends on what ‘rights’ we’re talking about. Social conservatives believe abortion is self serving, but make any mention of ‘fair play’ when it comes to economic policy and your a ‘communist’. You should consider others as long as I can be selfish with my money. When it comes to rights versus responsibility, one can find hypocrisy on both sides. Me’ism is a disease that doesn’t seem to discriminate between the right and the left. It just depends on the issue.

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  • Profile picture of ApolloDawn ApolloDawn said 6 months ago:

    1. Our indifference towards decency on TV and other mass media.

    I’m not aware of any decency problem, unless you refer to the acceptance of graphic violence on reality TV shows.

    4. The ‘me first’ mentality that has overtaken our way of life and translates into a complete disregard for the lives and welfare of others (this is not just a ‘liberal’ problem).

    Right on target.

    5. Parents and educators that are clueless that mental illness is a REAL illness and not just some ‘character flaw’.

    That factor is alone more significant than all the other factors, real or alleged, put together.

    We’ve narrowed it down to two big winners. If we really want to make a difference, run with those.

    And it’s not the fault of the gun, either.

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  • Profile picture of milemarker milemarker said 6 months ago:

    One wonders where the studies are that show mental health issues can be treated by moral teaching; Jim Jones and David Koresh notwithstanding. In October I read of a highly moral Christian man with a lovely wife and two wonderful teenage sons who went to church on Sunday morning, prayed his prayers, shook the minister’s hand and participated in the men’s bible study lesson. He was earning a six-figure salary at work and lived in comfort. Then he went home and shot his wife and two sons to death because he was worried that Barack Obama would win re-election. Did he just need more moral backbone? Not enough Jesus in his life?

    And, of course, there are a goodly number of men of the cloth – those paragons of morality and virtue – now serving time for molesting children. Someone should ask the psychiatrist how that fits into his theory of morality being the miracle cure.

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  • Profile picture of think4yourself think4yourself said 6 months ago:

    Its a whole mesh of factors mile. These tragedies will occur when you take a mentally ill person who struggles with understanding logical versus illogical or reality versus fantasy and place him in a world that sensationalizes the fantastical, and blurs the line between logical and illogical without any regard for the harm it cause others. We must address the mental health needs, yes. But we also must stop regarding our attitudes towards sex, language, and violence as being a matter of personal freedom. As long as we make the liberty of the individual paramount over all other concerns and that our attitudes towards these subjects are culturally relative matters, tragedies such as this will continue. I can guarantee it! I don’t care what faith one is, there are some values and principles that are shared cross culture. Regardless of what god we worship or don’t worship, one does not have the licence to make up life’s rules as they go. There has to be a standard and a line that does not get crossed without at least social sanctions. The problem is that Me’ism celebrates the idea the there are no social mores, therefore, there can’t be social sanctions. Rules are repressive. So, why not open fire on a theatre full of people or a classroom full of kids? Behavioral expectations are relative-that is, until the innocent end up hurt under the rules that you had the right to establish for yourself without the interference of a minister or some ‘religious brain washer’. Yup! Moral relativity DOES work (tongue in cheek)!

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  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 6 months ago:

    Forks make people fat
    So, should we ban steak knives Groucho
    And it’s not the fault of the gun, either.
    You are all right, a gun is a machine, nothing more. Oh it is one more thing: a machine that is designed to kill or to be used to practice to kill. We can never get rid of them, there are too many. But we can increase Law Enforcement’s ability to control them more than we do now. And we need to do it now.

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  • Profile picture of John Bravo John Bravo said 6 months ago:

    I say ban women from being allowed to legally own guns. The guns used were registered to a woman.

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  • Profile picture of paxchristi3 paxchristi3 said 6 months ago:

    Indeed, the moral relativists have their heads buried in the sand when it comes to assessing the grim consequences of the errors of their ways in history. Sure, there have been supposedly “moral” folks who have done such wrongdoing, but only as the result of perverting God’s laws (the guy who slaughtered dozens of camp-goers in Norway last year is one such example). The bottom line is that we’ll reap what we sow by allowing abortion on demand and an increasingly trashy and godless culture, as exemplified by this nutty professor, who thinks the likes of Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are killing feminism (never mind that the original feminists had a problem with women being objectified only to give way to those who like women been demeaned): http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/12/13/feminist-professor-goes-after-insipid-pop-singers-katy-perry-and-taylor-swift-for-ruining-women/

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