What’s to become of the GOP? Extinction !! (27 posts)

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  • Profile picture of SWVoice SWVoice said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    I was out of internet range the past five days and missed all the fun. :-)

    Here is a cut and paste from an article by journalist Dewayne Wickham that I think is quite insightful of what is happening to our dear GOP.
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    Lack of diversity

    It is a lack of diversity that is plunging the party toward extinction. The Census Bureau has reported that Hispanics, blacks, Asians and other minorities now account for 50.4% of children born in the U.S. By the middle of this century, minorities are projected to outnumber non-Hispanic whites. But long before then, this nation’s changing demographics will alter the political landscape.

    Blacks and Hispanics constitute more than one-quarter of the population in three battleground states — Florida (39.4%), Colorado (25.2%) and North Carolina (30.6%). Soon, the growth of minorities in these states will make them more likely to end up in the Democratic column.

    Texas, a state with the second largest number of Electoral College votes, has been in the Republican column in every presidential election since 1980. But Hispanics and blacks are now 50.3% of the population, and by 2020 the population shift there will probably make it a good bet to go Democratic in presidential contests.

    With the nation’s white share of the population shrinking, and control of the GOP firmly in the hands of right-wingers and their billionaire allies, there’s little chance it can increase its share of the black and Hispanic vote.

    Sure, Republicans have had a lot of success racking up election victories with little help from black and Hispanic voters, but that’s not going to continue very far into the future.

    Like a dying sun, the GOP’s impending doom is masked by a final burst of energy that might keep it competitive through a couple more election cycles. But as the nation’s demographics change, the Republican Party is destined for the political scrap heap in the not-too-distant future.
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    My personal view is that the GOP needs to change or go extinct, but as long as people like Pax and the TEA Party folks stubbornly stand their ground, it will not happen. Adios GOP !!!

  • Profile picture of catpaw catpaw said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    It is easy to arm chair quarterback in retrospect with a perspective of what the losing team did wrong. I was surprised to watch Fox News and see all the Republicans put in their analysis and opinions. I heard rants about “dirty tricks” and even “voter fraud” of the “Obama machine” to more level-headed observations of the GOP candidate not being “articulate” and not “reaching out” to minorities (which is becoming a misnomer if you’re not talking about white anglo-saxon protestants [WASPs]).
    No question, Romney ran a brilliant campaign. The GOP lost by over a hundred electorial votes (Florida is still counting their ballots). So, it could be argued that the election results were not the “squeaker” I and a good many others predicted–if you don’t qualify the figures. The popular vote was for practical purposes a 50-50 split. The House yet maintains a Republican majority and the Senate does not have a Democratic majority. More Republican than Democratic governors were elected. Plainly, the GOP got its message across, and not to just middle-aged whites.
    Both sides preached a message of “change.” Excuse me, it would be more accurate to say both sides carried a message about reaction to change that’s already happened. In that respect, I don’t think it wrong to say our political parties are out of touch with mainstream America. Afterall, the election results were also decided by a relative splinter of Independent voters, which are also fast becoming the not so minor minority. The Senate picked up a record 19 female senators; another not so minor minority.
    Both President Obama and House Speaker Boehner have said the message is loud and clear: the public is fed-up with the gridlock in Congress. Amen to that. But I think the two leaders could be missing a more significant implication. I think the campaign indicated a redefinition of “conservative” and “liberal.” Moderation is no longer the middle of two extremes; it needs to shift if the GOP is going to survive and I think it will.
    We live in a democracy where everyone has an equal voice. I expect alot of shouting to be heard.

  • Profile picture of AndyA AndyA said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Cat, in the winner takes all outcome that all but a couple of states observe, electoral votes are not a meaningful way tho determine the split. As you stated the popular vote was 50/50 and supports the claim that this country is split down the middle and the Repub party isn’t going to disintegrate, implode or roll over and give up.

  • Profile picture of catpaw catpaw said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    The Founding Fathers intended the electoral college to be a check and balance; otherwise presidential elections would be determined by the most populous states. It can be argued the larger states elect the president anyway, since they have the most electoral votes but the system isn’t going to go away. Likewise, two opposing parties are a check and balance and go back to the split between Jefferson and Adams; otherwise extemism would run the country. (And it has in some instances, despite checks and balances.) The GOP will modify its platform. Hardly the first time a political party (or even a religious institution) has altered its agenda to accomodate changing times.

  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    What the Republicans can’t seem to get their heads around is that 51% of the voters want a fairer tax system and an end to partisan gridlock in Washington. Seems simple enough. John Boehner gets it and will bring his guys around.

  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    My opinion is that this is a better country when we have two viable parties, who despite their differences work for the betterment of all. Republicans have worked themselves into a corner where they do not connect with the important demographics of a changing society; they are relying on a shrinking portion of the electorate. If they continue on this path they will truly become irrelevant. Democrats lost 5 of the 6 elections from 1972 to 1992. They re-invented themselves, got new leadership and became relevant. It was not easy and at times painful, but it worked. Republicans can do the same. They will need to shed some of the more extreme views that they have acquired over the past decade or so, especially in the area of social issues – people don’t want their morals controlled by government, look at all the success of Prohibition. I would welcome a Republican Party who believes in smaller govt., fiscal restraint and strong defense.

  • Profile picture of John  Bravo John Bravo said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    WOuld you welcome a Democrat party that believes in smaller govt, fiscal restraint and a strong defense??

    I didn’t think so.

  • Profile picture of Lamonster Lamonster said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Reports of the death of the GOP are, as Mark Twain said of reports of his demise, premature. There will be some re-tooling and they’ll figure out the demographic sooner or later and be competitive. It wasn’t so long ago that the Democrats were crying over their own near extinction ,http://www.theblaze.com/stories/stay-calm-conservatives-here-are-the-biggest-democrat-freak-outs-from-bushs-2004-re-election-victory/, but by becoming “Santa Claus and his down-and-dirty-
    tricks elves” they have managed to buy back the majority of the electorate. So then, assuming the Constitution is still intact, (and I have faith that it will be) the GOP will be there in 2016.

  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Republicans should really reconsider their position on birth control, because what happened to them last Tuesday could have serious repercussions.

  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Lamont, that is a very snobbish, elitist statement that reflects the attitude of so many of your party following the defeat. Guess all of you are following chief lemming O’Reilly. You realize that you are talking about 63mm of your fellow citizens, don’t you?

  • Profile picture of Lamonster Lamonster said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Groucho, elitist and snobbish how? 2 for 1–explain their position on birth control and how changing it would help.

  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Well, the GOP took a f***ing Tuesday. Would have been safer with contraceptive. Elitist and snobbish because you are saying a majority of your fellow Americans can be bought. Kind of like that Mormon guy at the rich fundraiser. Honestly, Lamont, I didn’t know you were so obtuse.

  • Profile picture of Lamonster Lamonster said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Thanks for the clarification (coarse though it be) of the birth control comment. Let me also clarify my Santa comment. I’m not talking about the majority of my fellow Americans. I believe, and the recent popular vote bears it out, that the electorate is very nearly evenly divided. All the dems needed was a small boost from the takers of our society (no, not the 47% being bandied about) to put them over the top. And with the elves of the MSM helping to spread the message that BHO is Robin Hood incarnate (I know I’m mixing my legends but someone has to pay for Santa’s materials), how can you not say that a segment is being bought? But being bought is not just about freebies, it’s also about threats and scare tactics like “The War on Women” and “They’ll put you back in chains”. I know I have no hope of changing your opinion but I hope this helps make my point more acute.

    And your added comment about O’Reilly tells me that you have little understanding of what he is about. I’d recommend further study.

  • Profile picture of SWVoice SWVoice said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    The electorate is currently nearly evenly divided, but (and this is what Mr. Wickham’s essay was about) by the NEXT midterm election, and beyond, the unevenness will continue to tilt to the left. The GOP will continue to own the house for awhile yet, but eventually it too will fall into the Dems hands.

  • Profile picture of AndyA AndyA said 6 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Maybe, maybe not.