”It was not clear how the gun ended up in the child’s hands.” (18 posts)

Thread tags: gun accountability, gun responsibility
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  • Profile picture of milemarker milemarker said 5 months ago:

    Virginia – “Four-year-old accidentally shoots relative in Richmond”

  • Profile picture of JohnTaylor60 JohnTaylor60 said 5 months ago:

    Give it a rest milemarker. Go watch Ellen….

  • Profile picture of think4yourself think4yourself said 5 months ago:

    So, the news mm, is at this point, we don’t know how it happened? What’s the discussion point?

  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 5 months ago:

    The discussion is that there are too many damn guns in this country for everyone to keep track of. There should be an intelligence test before buying.

  • Profile picture of think4yourself think4yourself said 5 months ago:

    This, theoretically, could have been the only gun left on earth. What difference does it make? None. There’s too little information to gauge what SHOULD have happened, but didn’t. Should we blame car deaths on there being ‘too many damn cars’ on the road, or should we look at ways to keep bad drivers off the road?

  • Profile picture of milemarker milemarker said 5 months ago:

    The obvious point is that a 4-year-old child shot an adult. It is my understanding that when a child is involved in a gun incident, they’re almost certainly a gun in the child’s hands. And responsible adults get curious how it is that a four year old child managed to have the gun. We must ask these difficult questions since the NRA champions a theme of guns for all. They mean ALL, and let’s consider that the genius to allowed the gun to fall into this child’s hands would probably pass a background check with flying colors. There’s plenty of information to gauge. 1) Carless gun owner meets, 2) 4-year-old child. There probably won’t be any charges filed since the child is unable to make a moral judgement.

  • Profile picture of John  Bravo John Bravo said 5 months ago:

    We must ask these difficult questions since the NRA champions a theme of guns for all

    Can you please point us to a link where the NRA champions 4 year olds using guns? Thanks.

  • Profile picture of John  Bravo John Bravo said 5 months ago:

    For those that are really interested in seriously promoting gun safety with our nations children, I suggest you visit the NRA Eddie Eagle Gunsafe program at the following link.

    http://eddieeagle.nra.org/

    Those of you who are more interested in practicing Saul Alinskys “Rules for Radicals” and continuing to polarize this country, I suggest you visit this website.
    http://www.whitehouse.gov

  • Profile picture of milemarker milemarker said 5 months ago:

    JB:That would be absurd, John, especially when I made no such charge.

    JT60: You’ll have to watch Ellen alone. I’m a news junky. Fox, CNN, ABC, CSPAN, that sort of thing. I realize that you’re hard pressed to explain how someone with the constitutional right to own a gun, someone who probably passed a background check with flying colors, could be so careless. But then, you’re not much interested in questions on responsibility and accountability with guns.

  • Profile picture of John  Bravo John Bravo said 5 months ago:

    “We must ask these difficult questions since the NRA champions a theme of guns for all. ” MM

    We must ask why you insist on being a liar.

  • Profile picture of catpaw catpaw said 5 months ago:

    Small children cannot apply reality to fantasy. I recall my toddler (about 3) tried to hit the cat with a pan because she saw such on a cartoon. She couldn’t make the connection that she could hurt the animal. I was on hand to intervene. Apparently, an adult wasn’t when this four-year old picked up a gun.
    Unless things have changed, the judge applies discretion about the age a child can distinguish right from wrong and consequences of his actions.

  • Profile picture of JohnTaylor60 JohnTaylor60 said 5 months ago:

    mm, I just watched the news clip. I suspect, based on the people interviewed, that the owner of the gun did not obtain it legally. So I’ll tell you what. I’m gonna go play golf tomorrow, and you surf the various news sites, since you are a news junky, and find out when, where, and how the “owner” obtained the gun. Post that information, and I’ll comment regarding responsibility and accountability of gun ownership in the afternoon. If you don’t, I won’t be surprised. I know your kind.

  • Profile picture of limalimamike limalimamike said 5 months ago:

    Don’t you like how the MSM is in complete goose-step with Obama, et al, on the gun thing?

    It used to be that media was a vigilant watchdog for the rights of the people, bashing the politicians who attempted to encroach on said rights with legislation.

    Now we have media not only allowing it to happen, but running interference for the govt to do it.

  • Profile picture of Lamonster Lamonster said 5 months ago:

    “We must ask these difficult questions since the NRA champions a theme of guns for all. They mean ALL, and let’s consider that the genius to allowed the gun to fall into this child’s hands would probably pass a background check with flying colors.”

    MM,even though you said ALL, I’m pretty sure you did not mean to include 4 year olds. But even eliminating them, your charge is inaccurate. The NRA does not want guns in the hands of “the genius who allowed the gun to fall into this child’s hands”. Here is a quote from Wayne Lapierre:

    “We have a mental health system in this country that has completely and totally collapsed. We have no national database of these lunatics. … 23 states are still putting only a small number of records into the system and a lot of states are putting none. So when they go through the National Instant Check System and they go to try to screen out one of those lunatics, the records are not even in the system. [...]
    We have backed the National Instant Check system, we have backed putting anyone adjudicated mentally incompetent into the system.”

    He and the NRA do not believe everyone should be allowed to have a gun. We may not agree with everything he stands for, but give credit where credit is due.

  • Profile picture of think4yourself think4yourself said 5 months ago:

    Accidents can even happen with mentally well and well intentioned folks. I sincerely doubt (or would hope) that the parent handed the gun to the kid and said ‘here ya go Junior!’. And mentally well and well intentioned folks make mistakes that result in their legally obtained fire arms getting into the wrong hands. That’s why the NRA position is short sighted. Its not about blaming gun owners or the NRA for violence. Its about doing more to mitigate accidents by passing tougher safety regulations such an annual permitting process that includes registration fees such as what DMV does, home inspection, and mandatory safety training (HECK, the NRA can even be the ones to administer such training!). The whole idea is not to eliminate gun ownership, but to make it safer.