Iran Is A ’Rational Actor’? Huh? (27 posts)

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  • Profile picture of Patrick319 Patrick319 said 2 months, 4 weeks ago:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/19/us-britain-urge-israel-not-to-attack-irans-nuclear-program/

    So Iran is lighting the fuse to ‘wipe the jews off the face of the earth’, and the West tells Israel “don’t try defending yourself”. Further evidence of mounting anti semitism in the US and EU.

  • Profile picture of limalimamike limalimamike said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Hitler in the white house?

  • Profile picture of Patrick319 Patrick319 said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    More like Hassan al-Banna in the White House.

  • Profile picture of TonyH TonyH said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    You don’t have to worry about Israel. They’ll fight back………………. and win. Iran is going to screw around and make the entire middle east “Israel”. Then, we’ll be buying oil from Israel.

    They won’t just sit still and let it happen, not again. There’s way too much Jewish history on the “Turn the Other Cheak” thing. It never worked.

  • Profile picture of Patrick319 Patrick319 said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Exactly Tony. And we’d be wise to understand the tensions from the viewpoint of Israel. They’re a country roughly the size of the state of New Jersey, surrounded by nations who want them wiped off the face of the earth. How should they respond to a country that has promised genocide and is developing nuclear weap….oh, no, energy research. The west is either displaying incredible naivity that ignores history, or they are showing passive aggresive contempt for the Jewish State.

  • Profile picture of TonyH TonyH said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I think that the west speaks with forked tongue. They say one thing, but let the crap hit the fan over there, and see what happens. Everything Israel throws at them will say “Made in USA”. I’m sure that our Navy will be Johnny on the spot too. And just like Barny, they’d have a Bullet.

  • Profile picture of limalimamike limalimamike said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    The west is distancing themselves from Israel because people like Obama don’t want to be paralleled with what Israel is about to do.

    The same thing happened in 1973 too

  • Profile picture of Patrick319 Patrick319 said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    If people took a good, hard look at the history of the Jewish people, they would view their preemptive intentions as totally justified. Their enemies have done everything they possibly could to erradicate the planet of them, but they are still ethnically, the longest surviving people group in the world-and the world has done NOTHING to help their plight until a few million Jews fall dead. Historically, they have always had to fend for themselves. The United States has been an unconditional ally since 1948, but the relationship-under our muslim president-has chilled.

  • Profile picture of TonyH TonyH said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I think we both believe that Israel will always come out on top, one way or another.

  • Profile picture of Patrick319 Patrick319 said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Ho, ho, ho, what do ya know!

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/02/21/un-nuclear-agency-says-iran-blocking-probe-into-atomic-work/

    Yeah, ‘rational actor’. We continue to hide behind a vail of diplomacy while the Iranian government continues to shoot its middle finger at the whole dang planet. At least the Israelis have the testicular fortitude to do something about it besides just ‘talk’.

  • Profile picture of saberhagen saberhagen said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Israel is rightfully and understandably concerned about Iran’s nuclear intentions, along with the U.S. and rest of the civilized world.

    The U.S. hopes to force Iran to abandon its nuclear weapons program by ratcheting up pressure with sanctions before inflaming the middle east.

    It is clear that preemptive surgical strikes against its weapons facilities are an option on the table.

    The U.S. has been aggressively seeking through the United Nations and NATO the formation of an international coalition to address the issue as Israel holds its strike plans in abeyance until it is clear that Iran’s nuclear weapons development is near.

    It is quite naive to erroneously assume that the administration is doing nothing while pressuring Israel to hold off on its preemptive strike plans.

    The killings of several of Iran’s top nuclear physicists and engineers should be a clue to Obama Bashers about some of the covert actions which are taking place outside diplomatic channels.

    The baseless charge by administration detractors that the U.S. has somehow alienated Israel and severely damaged the nation’s alliance with its long time friend is quite simplistic.

    It’s a good thing that international relations are in the hands of cooler heads than those shoot-from-the-hip hawks who would recklessly start yet more wars than are already threatening the destabilization of the entire middle east and the rest of the world.

    While reactionaries are itching for bloodshed, sensible people are hoping that aggressive diplomatic efforts will alleviate the necessity of military force against Iran.

    You’d think the knee-jerk hawks would learn from recent history the lessons taught by the senseless and unnecessary invasions and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan which have helped lead to the economic crippling of America while failing to produce democracies in either country.

    Concerning Iran, if military intervention proves needed to prevent further nuclear weapons proliferation by the bad actors in the middle east, it should ideally be done by an international coalition with the monetary and political costs shared equally among them.

    Only if all efforts toward an international consensus fail, should a unilateral preemptive strike by Israel or bilateral strike including Israel and the U.S. be made with definitive knowledge that Iran’s nuclear weapons capability is imminent.

  • Profile picture of Patrick319 Patrick319 said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    “The killings of several of Iran’s top nuclear physicists and engineers should be a clue to Obama Bashers about some of the covert actions which are taking place outside diplomatic channels.”

    Saber, if your implying that the United States was a player in any of those covert actions, your wrong. Those killings have Mossad written all over them. Even the Iranians acknowledge it was Mossad and Israel has neither confirmed or denied. What does that tell you? Why do you think Iran immediately took action by targetting Israeli Embassies? As usuall, the Jews are fending for themselves while the rest of the planet sit on their thumbs and pontificate. Sound familiar?

  • Profile picture of limalimamike limalimamike said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    The killings of several of Iran’s top nuclear physicists and engineers should be a clue to Obama Bashers about some of the covert actions which are taking place outside diplomatic channels

    hahahahaaa….RIGHT. that is ALL Israel right there. That is just the tip of the ice berg too.
    Anyone want to bet that Iran will fold like a house of cards after Israel’s forces tear Iran to shreds?

  • Profile picture of saberhagen saberhagen said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    It’s good that people don’t think the U.S. is directly involved in the killings of Iranian nuclear scientists and engineers.

    C’mon now Obama haters, even you know that it is naive to think that there is a disconnect between U.S. and Israeli intelligence and other agencies.

    In fact, there is an extremely close relationship between America”s and Israel’s topmost government offices (The White House) and respective military leaders.

  • Profile picture of Patrick319 Patrick319 said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    If that’s the case Saber, somebody forgot to keep Secretary Clinton in the loop, because she outright condemned the attacks.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/13/has-israel-been-killing-iran-s-nuclear-scientists.html