I swear. You just can’t make this stuff up…………. (28 posts)

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  • Profile picture of TonyH TonyH said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Good luck finding THIS in the mainstream media.

    The Solar thing just got a little more interesting: The Tonopah Solar company in Harry Reid’s Nevada is getting a $737 million loan from Obama’s Department of Energy. The project will produce a 110 megawatt power system and employ 45 permanent workers. That’s costing us just $16 million per job. One of the investment partners in this endeavor is Pacific Corporate Group (PCG). The PCG executive director is Ron Pelosi, who is the brother to Nancy ‘s husband. Just move along folks. Nuthin’ goin’ on here. Want verification? http://nation.foxnews.com/nancy-pelosi/2011/09/28/obama-gives-737-million-solar-firm-linked-pelosi-clan <http://nation.foxnews.com/nancy-

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  • Profile picture of Bako57 Bako57 said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    So true, Tony. Reminds me of the screams of outrage directed at Bush/Cheney and Halliburton. No specifics, just outrage that any business being conducted must have been for the benefit of Bush/Cheney cronies. So where is the Left Wing outrage when we have specific examples of cronyism in the Obama administration? Bankrupt Solyndra and the campaign bundlers? $16M per job at PCG and the Pelosi connection? Not a word. Oh, that’s right: We’re just a bunch of racists to bring this up.

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  • Profile picture of limalimamike limalimamike said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    White on white racism.

    on a lighter note…petitions are now circulating to put the part time legislature on the ballot this coming November. If you want to sign it, let me know. I can direct you to a local shopping center where signature gatherers for said petition will be.

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  • Profile picture of TonyH TonyH said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Spending $737 million on one solar collection facility, on the front end, is down-right stupid. Solar collection technology is advancing by the minute. It’ll be obsolete by the time a $737 million dollar facility is complete, and won’t be economical to operate. That money is gone, up in smoke. It’s long gone and will NEVER be paid back. When that facility is no longer economical to operate, and it won’t take long, they’ll just walk away from the whole she-bang. Even without the cronyism, it’s a bad deal.

    Centralized solar collection, because of the inefficiency of long transmission lines, is a really bad idea. Solar power collection needs to take place as close to the point of use as possible (like on the roof of the building where the power is being used). We need home-sized, or neighborhood-sized power sourcing. Most people don’t realize how much energy is wasted (lost) just by sending it all over the place through long cables.

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  • Profile picture of TonyH TonyH said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I think a part-time legislature is a pretty good idea. It’d require the law makers to live in the real world, under the laws that they pass. Wasn’t that the intent anyway? Somehow, I don’t think our pioneering countrymen wanted to governed by ANYONE who was deemed “above the law”. That’s the way it is today though…

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  • Profile picture of Lamonster Lamonster said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Looks like we’ve all just made a big investment in the Ron Pelosi Retirement Fund, which in turn will make a big contribution to the Obama Re-election Campaign.

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  • Profile picture of Patrick319 Patrick319 said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    There are two side to the part time legislature idea. The one side of the coin is that people who hold office would have to earn their riches in the private sector and would be bringing private sector experience to the table.

    The other side of the coin that I feel is being ignored are the few, but tangible advantages of having a full time, professional legislature. Has anyone ventured to even READ some of legislation that are elected officials vote on. They aren’t doing any homework (beyond following their party line) on the laws they’re passing as it is! You really think cutting them to part time solves the problem? Not likely. In all likelihood, it makes the problem worse since our elected officials are relegated to basing their decisions on not much more information on an issue than what John Q Voter gets. California is geographically and populace wise too big for a part time legislature to work. Think about it. It’s scary! I would just assume that we voters smarten up and elect people to office that have REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE already-before they get to Sacramento or DC.

    Yes, at first I thought it was a idea with merit until I considered the real implications. Don’t hold your breathe Grove. This idea, more likely than not, is DOA once it goes to a vote.

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  • Profile picture of Lamonster Lamonster said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Not that it’s likely to happen any time soon, but a part-time legislature would shorten the time that they have to introduce this legislation that they don’t read and that we don’t need. Which IS the whole point.

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  • Profile picture of TonyH TonyH said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I agree Lemonster. I think it’d cut way down on the special interest crap, because the part-timers wouldn’t have to time nor patience for it. Lobbyiests would be very lonely people.

    And Patrick319, if they don’t read them now, even though it’s a full-time job, it can’t get any worse with them being part-time.

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  • Profile picture of limalimamike limalimamike said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Patrick…with 90 days vs 9 months, less bills will be floated through both houses
    Ted Costas said it best when asked my MSNBC’s talking heads that part time legislation would create “more corruption”
    Costas replied with,” That’s not likely with as much corruption that is happening today.”

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  • Profile picture of Patrick319 Patrick319 said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Tony and mike-you substantiate my point about a part time legislature. We’re giving them half the amount of time to accomplish what they are already not accomplishing. They are already making uninformed decisions that are likely just force fed-party line votes pre-determined by party bosses (what else could you accomplish in two years?). Its like trying to say that a kid failing in school needs to be in school less. Your arguments (and Groves) make no sense at all. I don’t think this is as much about good government as it is ‘vendeta thinking’ against lifetime liberal legislators in Sacramento. If Sacramento was dominated by conservative career lawmakers, you guys wouldn’t be griping about ‘corruption’.

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  • Profile picture of TonyH TonyH said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    No, I’m of the belief that 2/3 of the bills introduced and voted on, are just superfluous crap, ment to appease some special interest, that does nothing for the goal of successfully running the state. How many bills that you hear about make you say WHAT??? Just think about all the ones that get no press coverage.

    I believe that most of that junk will get culled out due to lack of time to screw with it.

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  • Profile picture of Patrick319 Patrick319 said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    True, to an extent. Then the logical rebuttal might be, where would California be if our elected officials invested that wasted time on the 1/3 of bills that really mattered. In other words, work full time on the issues that matter to their constituents.

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  • Profile picture of TonyH TonyH said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    If ifs and buts were fruits and nuts, then California would STILL be a bowl of Grenola…….what ain’t fruits n nuts is flakes.

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  • Profile picture of TonyH TonyH said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    You know what you’ve got with a full-time legesature. California has had the same problems longer than you’ve been alive. Why would you think anything will change without radical intervention?
    The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over, and expecting a different outcome each time.

    If wishing would have changed California politics, I would’ve had everything cleared up 25 years ago.

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