Boy Scouts shouldn’t abandon morality: Column (55 posts)

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  • Profile picture of paxchristi3 paxchristi3 said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I call your attention to a superb column written by an Eagle Scout and posted on USA Today’s website about the possible change in BSA policy regarding the inclusion of homosexuals that has been making the national news: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/01/28/boy-scouts-gay-members/1872077/

    For the life of me, I can’t understand why proponents of the policy change won’t start up their own scouting organization other than to bully those with traditional sensibilities into going along with their radical sexualization of the BSA. We saw what happened to the Catholic Church when it allowed homosexuals into the priesthood, so we can expect the same to happen with the BSA if the policy is scrapped. What next? Would the radicals force the BSA to do away with serving God since his commandments conflict with their twisted values?

    Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council has more to say about this issue: http://www.frc.org/washingtonupdate/scouts-consider-breaking-camp-with-tradition

  • Profile picture of catpaw catpaw said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Perhaps some in the BSA have a broader view of immorality. Once upon a time I heard a preacher assert that “it is not the thing that is a sin; it’s what you do with the thing that’s a sin.” That could apply to booze, nudity, or of late, shooting somebody with a machine gun.
    Homos don’t choose their sexual identity anymore than people choose their skin color or handicaps or mental stability. If being homo is a sin, is ostracizing them a virtue?

  • Profile picture of Mach5 Mach5 said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Boy scouts are a good organization for all boys, gay or straight, it’s time to let them in, it helps them, and teaches them good interaction skills too, I was a boy scout, I know what good they can do, This BSA policy change is good,

  • Profile picture of ApolloDawn ApolloDawn said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    (~Applauds Mach~)

  • Profile picture of think4yourself think4yourself said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    As long as it was a decision made from within the organization and not compelled by the courts or bully legislators. Organizations such as BSA should have the freedom to determine its own organizational values (even if we disagree with them) without government intrusion.

  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Well put Mach.

  • Profile picture of paxchristi3 paxchristi3 said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Since the radical social engineers don’t have the decency to form their own organizations rather than hijack the BSA like they did with traditional marriage, then the traditionalists will part ways and join other boys organizations that don’t put up with this crap, leaving their opponents to face the prospect of putting a millstone around their necks and casting themselves into the sea rather than leading the little ones to sin as Jesus warned and thus inviting the kinds of massive lawsuits that rocked the Catholic Church as a result of the sex abuse scandal in which 80 percent of the cases involved young men as the victims.

    The following comment that I found on another blog hits the nail squarely on the head about the shameless two-facedness in our midst:

    “What depresses me even more is that most Americans are either too stupid or too lazy to see the obvious hypocrisy in it all. It really bothers me that people can’t see that so-called tolerant people are just as, if not more, intolerant as we conservative Christians are supposed to be.

    “What bothers me most, though, is that this clouds my view of Jesus. It causes me to lose hope. It is hard to look at the Obamas and the Pelosis and the Richardses and the Gagas of the world and wonder how the heck we will recover as a nation, if its even possible. I look at all of the godless nations of the past and fear that we are headed that direction I fear that we will be treated the same way as they were treated.”

  • Profile picture of Mach5 Mach5 said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    pax, don’t you see how this BSA change could help with Tolerance and anti bulling of gay boys?, AND helping them learn Christian values?, I’m sure you would vote for that, look at the positive effects this could have on young boys

  • Profile picture of think4yourself think4yourself said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Pax, people have to take responsibility for their own beliefs and attitudes rather than blame government, media, etc. Its impossible to legislate matters of the heart. Jesus did not march up to Rome, army in tow, and demand change. He took a more grassroots approach by tending to others before himself. The war over souls will not be won in Washington DC, Sacramento, or any Board Room. It can only be fought by practicing what is taught inside the church house out on the street. The terms ‘Militant’ and ‘Christianity’ are contradictory terms.

  • Profile picture of paxchristi3 paxchristi3 said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Mach and T4Y, I could go along with your suggestions if not for the disturbing fact that less than 5% of the population is homosexual, yet they are successfully and unashamedly forcing their “lifestyle” on the whole country, not to mention being intolerant and judgmental of Christian values. All it takes is for one little crack to cause them to come crashing down.

    Christ may have used the carrot in establishing his kingdom on Earth, but he wasn’t hesitant to use the stick when needed like when he drove out the money changers from the temple, told the woman to “go and sin no more” and rebuked Peter with his “get thee behind me, Satan!” remark for thinking in the ways of the world rather than of God’s ways.

    All the traditionalists can do, then, is to just stand by the gate to the path that is hard and narrow but leads to Christ and welcome the passers-by who have awakened to the realization that while the path they are walking on may be wide and easy, it is leading them to destruction.

  • Profile picture of paxchristi3 paxchristi3 said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Perhaps Revelations 3:13-16 does much to explain my hesitation to make peace with those who would upend Christian values: He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches. And to the angel of the church of Laodicea, write: These things saith the Amen (that is, the true one, the Truth itself; the Word and Son of God. The beginning– that is, the principle, the source, and the efficient cause of the whole creation), the faithful and true witness, who is the beginning of the creation of God: I know thy works, that thou art neither cold, nor hot. I would thou wert cold, or hot. But because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold, nor hot, I will begin to vomit thee out of my mouth.

  • Profile picture of Mach5 Mach5 said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Kids need all the help and guidance they can get these days, BSA can do that, let them help

  • Profile picture of Geoffrey Thorpe Geoffrey Thorpe said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    You know, I’ve long thought Pax reads a different bible than other Christians, since he regularly refers to Revelations. Now I’m convinced of it.

  • Profile picture of paxchristi3 paxchristi3 said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I’m all for the BSA providing help and guidance to those who want to live up to their obligations in the Scout Oath and Scout laws to be morally straight, but can anyone really believe that would be the case if the BSA would just open wide the floodgates, pretty please?

    No, the secularist bullies will continue to batter the fort until total acceptance of the gay lifestyle is sworn to. Isn’t it ironic that they would wail and gnash their teeth anytime Christians would try to change their sinful lifestyle yet they have no problem with trying to get us to change into embracing sin?

    Now Ben Shapiro and I ask you, who really is being the bully here? http://www.amazon.com/Bullies-Culture-Intimidation-Silences-Americans/dp/1476709998

    So, Geoffrey, if Revelations is a crock, how about the other parts of the Bible, specifically the one that contains the passage where Jesus said he came not to bring peace but the sword so as to divide the flock into those who hear him and those who reject him?

  • Profile picture of Geoffrey Thorpe Geoffrey Thorpe said 3 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Pax: there’s no such book in the bible. Revelation, yes, but Revelations, no.