About that Keystone pipeline (12 posts)

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  • Profile picture of Mach5 Mach5 said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    Environmentalists are planning a demonstration on Nov. 18 to put fresh pressure on President Obama, the winner of a second term, to reject the proposed Keystone XL oil sands pipeline.

    Climate activists including 350.org founder Bill McKibben and Sierra Club head Michael Brune announced the White House demonstration Tuesday shortly after Obama was projected the victor over Mitt Romney. …

    “We’d like to ask you to come once more to Washington, to resume the battle to stop the Keystone XL Pipeline, mid-afternoon on Nov. 18th,” states the letter from activists including author Naomi Klein, Nebraska anti-Keystone advocate Jane Kleeb, outspoken NASA climate scientist James Hansen and others.

    Any bets on how second-term Obama is going to play it?

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/07/so-about-that-keystone-pipeline/

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  • Profile picture of catpaw catpaw said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    The keystone was stopped temporairily at the pleas of the people who live in the vicinity, including a Republican governor.

    The pipeline was halted until comprehensive environmental studies could be done.

    The pipeline will not effect the price at the pump. As a world commodity, big oil sells it to the highest bidder. Tankers ship oil to foreign countries out of US ports now.

    A hillbilly still can produce alternative fuel. A vehicle can run on moonshine. I don’t understand why we are in a panic to drill for oil when brew it.

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  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    When the environmental impact statement is issued, the President will review it and decide, which has always been his position.

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  • Profile picture of Lamonster Lamonster said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    catpaw, that stuff they’re brewing, or distilling, is made from food, which the world needs more than oil.

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  • Profile picture of milemarker milemarker said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    I don’t think Keystone works as a wedge issue anymore, which is what Republicans always intended it to be. It does have the merit of being a substantive question unlike that of, say, the president’s birth certificate and his school records. The environmental impact of the pipeline is of great concern to conservatives, as well, and we heard no one in the White House simply vetoing the subject out of hand. The President’s known position was that the environmental impact report was a necessary step in the path to approval. That position bears no hostility to the project.

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  • Profile picture of catpaw catpaw said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    I’ve heard that argument, monster, and I’m beginning to wonder just what the impact on world hunger an alternative fuel source would be. I know I’m talking in simplistics. If I knew how to build a still from scratch I’d probably have one in my own back yard. $4 per gallon shouldn’t be the new normal.
    So, now I have a subject to read up on and research. I’ll stay in touch and let you know what I find.

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  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    I prefer vodka myself, scotch will also suffice, but you will need to find some peat.

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  • Profile picture of Mach5 Mach5 said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    I dont’ care for those peaty Scotches, give me a 10 or 12 year old Macallan scotch :) and $4.00 a gallon is the new normal under Obama, we will have to get used to it

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  • Profile picture of Groucho Groucho said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    I’m a Lafroigh guy myself.

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  • Profile picture of Lamonster Lamonster said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    It’s a vicious circle, catpaw. Some say we don’t have the corn to spare for fuel because drought conditions have decimated the crops. Some say the drought in the corn belt is brought on by warmer climate conditions. Some say the warmer climate is caused by burning fossil fuels. Right now we are dependent on fossil fuels for planting, harvesting, processing and shipping food all over the world. So where do we break the circle? Can you imagine the prices when our food, fuel and spirits all come from the same source and yields are down for whatever reason?

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  • Profile picture of Lamonster Lamonster said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    Groucho, would you give up your scotch if we need peat for fuel?

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  • Profile picture of limalimamike limalimamike said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    Think this is bad, Carbon credits are a mere months away from reality here in CA…wait until your utility bill and fuel prices jump 40-50%

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